Post by Joe on Feb 7, 2006 17:00:53 GMT -5
(09:05:56 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : 4. Forced Actions will not be acceptable. No forced action will be considered for a lethal blow or knock out blow. A point will be deducted for each forced action. To avoid using forced actions, attempt to use the following.
(09:06:19 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : ~*I thrust my sword forward at your chest, hoping to kill you.*~ Instead of, ~*I thrust my sword into your chest so that it drives through your muscle tissue and into your heart leaving the tip of the sword poking out of your back*~
(09:06:54 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : words like 'try' 'hope' 'aims to' are all good
(09:07:08 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : never say, 'You did'
(09:07:27 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : ~*I swing my sword down and to my right, to deflect your blow wide of my right leg.*~ instead of, ~*I swing my sword down and to my right, deflecting your sword wide to my right so that it is completely out of position for anything I may then do.*~
(09:08:02 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : block and parry but never say exactly where there weapon is
(09:08:59 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : as Ya stand 3 feet from Me and I do not need to step in at this range I open My shield up to My left side, like a door as You stick Your sword out, to bat it off to My left and open the gap right up looking at a leather shield of 7 layers I assume against a Torv longsword it was going to be nasty
(09:09:00 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
: Im use ta saying try and attempts so that is good I can use here smiles
(09:09:34 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : to bat it off to My left and open the gap right up
(09:09:57 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : It will be the judges decision on what a forced action is or is not
(09:10:27 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : 5. Clarity is key. A fighter must be clear to the Judge and to his opponent. A judge will decide what is clear, and what is not. If a judge struggles picturing something then it is not clear enough, thus warranting a deduction. Also, if a fighter is very unclear in a reaction, to the point that A judge deems it unclear, his opponent will have a small bit of leeway in his Counter, due to the opponent possibly having been confused as well.
09:11:07 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : understand?
(09:12:52 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
: it means that I have to be more clear bouts what I says and if I uses try and attempts so they not forced then the judge will be hapy and I wonts lose points or advantag
(09:12:57 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : stabs My right held sword at the left side of Your head.....or.....My right held sword being in a high right position to Me already as I sweep the blade over to My left to get the mid section over the top of Your shield and try to dig the cutting edge into the left side of Your skull
(09:13:42 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : correct
(09:14:08 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : 6. Realism is vital. A fighter must strive to be realistic, realistic to what is acceptable in modern physics, but as well as what is realistic in the Gorean World. If a judge feels something is not realistic, it will have a point deducted for it. Also if an attack is unrealistic, then it will not be considered for a lethal blow or knock out blow, even if the opponent messes up his defense.
(09:14:32 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
: so my post was forced caus I says that it did hit when it migt not of
(09:15:23 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : leaps 30 feet in the air as I sumersault over Your head and twist in mid air to come down at Your back...slashing My blade down as I come to slice open Your back if successful
(09:15:33 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : yes -smiles-
(09:15:55 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
: smiles
(09:16:14 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : 7. Back Posts will be a complicated issue in this type of system, because most times it does not allow for them to be performed as they are often done in other spar systems. An explanation of this is as follows.
(09:16:45 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : A fighter, in most systems, is able make attacks that will grossly leave his body exposed to a counter attack, but can get away with doing it, because to do it during an attack it would be a back post, so as such many fighters have neglected learning the skill of being able to attack while still keep themselves in the proper position to defend. Often times, people will make a multitude of attacks that would leave them greatly vulnerable, and then simply back away to clear the distance between the two men, thus keeping him safe. This is NOT realistic, and is corrected in this system.
(09:17:08 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : It is largely corrected in this system because people will not have the option to make such attacks and then simply clear away to bring them to safety, despite how badly they left themselves open. I shall provide an example of such.
(09:17:28 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : Fighter A: ~*Equipped with a long sword gripped firmly in both hands. I begin to advance toward you to get into sword range. I then bring the sword upward and then around forward to slash down and to my left at the top of your left shoulder*~
(09:17:39 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : Fighter B: ~*Equiped with a Torv shield in my left hand and a gladius in my right hand, I quickly Step in and to my right as well as raise the face of my Torvaldslander shield upward and to my left to take your hack down onto the face of my shield. I then quickly react with thrusting my gladius in and to my left at the front of your stomach*~
(09:17:56 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : These 2 posts are seen as happening at nearly the same time, and before fighter A could of simply used an action to back out of range after his strike, which is not overly realistic. The ability to Riposte in this spar system will prove to be most realistic, and most important.
(09:18:43 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : If a fighter tries to alter what he had done in previous posts, it is still of course a back post, due to it would be as though re-writing what he already had committed to making happen. Do not consider what is described above as back posting in the normal sense. Instead it is simply counter striking, or a riposte.
If a fighter's reaction at you, is to foolishly kick his leg up at your body into your sword range, it is acceptable for your counter to be snapping your weapon down at his leg, trying to make that fighter pull back a stump, as is very realistic. However, for you to do so, that will count as your Counter, as well as your reaction.
(09:19:25 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
: now I knows what ya means that I was moving away wasnt right not realistick
(09:19:30 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : understand?
(09:19:50 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : good, also do You understand the 'counter attack'
(09:20:05 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : If a fighter's reaction at you, is to foolishly kick his leg up at your body into your sword range, it is acceptable for your counter to be snapping your weapon down at his leg, trying to make that fighter pull back a stump, as is very realistic. However, for you to do so, that will count as your Counter, as well as your reaction.
(09:20:41 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
: I think I does but I will read it all again so I really understands it
(09:21:21 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : okay...if You are 1 pace away with a spear and dig the end in the ground to flick dirt at Me
(09:22:19 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : Counter: stepping in to a pace from You as I dig the spear head in the ground reaction: flicking the spear end up from the dirt as I try to flick the dirt in Your face
(09:23:24 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
: so not good to do that really cause all your moves are gone
(09:23:37 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : My Counter and Reaction as is a Counter Strike: as You came in that close and I had a 3 foot sword I watched You dig the spear in the ground and swung My sword at Your elbows from My right to left as I tey and just hack Your arms off
(09:24:36 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : is fine with the moves BUT A is two parts to do it and Mine is BOTH parts to do ONE action as a counterstrike
(09:25:15 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : You understand? -smiles-
09:25:53 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : Counter = moves forward and digs the spear head in the ground
Reaction = flicking the dirt up
(09:26:16 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : Counter and Reaction = cutting the arms off
09:26:47 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
says to Joe MacBain Companion of: so is better if ya can put counter and reaction in a post in such a way its only one or other not both at same time
(09:27:50 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : You can do 2 parts if You are setting up and then attacking OR One part if Your block is also an attack,...this is called a COUNTERSTRIKE
(09:28:31 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
says to Joe MacBain Companion of: I understands that now
(09:28:59 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : counter-I step in and lean over
reaction-as I throw a right fisted punch at Your nose
(09:29:53 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : You: Counter - leans My head back to My right to dodge the blow
Reaction: thrusting My sword up at Your ribs
(09:29:58 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : or
(09:30:47 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : Counter and Reaction - snaps My sword from My right to left as I aim to cut Your hand off at the wrist as Your try and punch Me and leave You with a bleeding stump on the end of Your arm
(09:31:00 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : last one is a COUNTERSTRIKE
(09:33:11 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : 8: To allow Prodigy to go further in seperation from some other combat systems, there will be more of a rolling time limit used in prodigy battles. A time limit may be agreed upon by both and all combatants prior to a fight. Some fighters are fast, they may wish a 4 or 5 minute time limits, others are slower, they may wish a 8 to 10 minute time limit, some may wish a longer time limit then that or no time limit at all. The reason time limits were added to Gorean combat was to keep spars flowing and moving so that a 5 hour death spar would be a thing of the past. This rolling time limit shall hopefully provide benefits for speedy fighters liking to post fast, or slower fighters wishing to take it slower. The default time limit for Prodigy fights that a spontaneous(IE: Open Combat fight would be expected to perform under, is 8 minutes.
Time begins when the first attack is issued, it does not start from the stances. Breaking time violation will be a time deduction in sport spars, in serious fights, the reaction in a post that has a time violation, it will be considered as though your opponent was temporarily stunned, and was unable to make a real reaction. If you notice their time violation, and are certain they busted time, in a serious fight, you may disregard their reaction and continue on with using your counter as a free movement or reposition, but not an attack. If that reaction that would be nullified by busting time, is in defense of a lethal or knock out attack, it will not be considered as doing full damage, but this should be rare as defenses should be found in the counter. A time out should never be the only cause for death. The Judge will look at it as part of the blow landed. However that still requires the defense to have been realistic. If the defense would not have worked, AND they busted time, then it is acceptable to rule them dead/captured.
(09:33:55 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : So ave is 8 mins for a Spar but can be no time limit if both agree
(09:34:22 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
says to Joe MacBain Companion of: thats good cause I needs as long as I can gets laughs
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : Time begins when the first attack is issued, it does not start from the stances. Breaking time violation will be a time deduction in sport spars, in serious fights, the reaction in a post that has a time violation, it will be considered as though your opponent was temporarily stunned, and was unable to make a real reaction. If you notice their time violation, and are certain they busted time, in a serious fight, you may disregard their reaction and continue on with using your counter as a free movement or reposition, but not an attack. If that reaction that would be nullified by busting time, is in defense of a lethal or knock out attack, it will not be considered as doing full damage, but this should be rare as defenses should be found in the counter. A time out should never be the only cause for death. The Judge will look at it as part of the blow landed. However that still requires the defense to have been realistic. If the defense would not have worked, AND they busted time, then it is acceptable to rule them dead/captured.
(09:35:40 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : make sure You understand this part
(09:36:02 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
says to Joe MacBain Companion of: ok gives me a min to read it please
009:36:44 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : of course
(09:38:40 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : Tiem starts from the FIRST attack NOT stance
Going over time in a REAL fight means the reaction did not work from the other person...a free go! so You do not need to defend..You can move to a better position
(09:38:44 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
says to Joe MacBain Companion of: so if we says only loud 8 mins and I take 10 mins then me reaction part of my post may be voided
(09:39:07 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : yes
(09:39:35 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : When fighting Multiple Opponents, You will reply to the first attack, and have 8 minutes to reply from that first attack. Once you reply, You have 8 minutes from your OWN time stamp to reply to the 2nd attacker
(09:40:17 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : 9: If an opponent’s bank reaches zero before the battle may be over, it is automatically ended right there if the Judge should wish to do so. 10 errors in one battle should be enough to clearly show who won and who lost.
(09:40:52 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : yes
(09:41:36 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : 10: The goal is to provide realism, and a bit of simplicity that is lacking in some systems. We are interested in having many battles from Kaiila back, and in mounted combat, like naval combat, half a dozen minor actions are always happening at once, and we hope this will provide a good system to enjoy mounted combat.
(09:42:03 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : clear enough? -smiles-
(09:42:27 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : 11. To escape serious combat, You must use your Counters to block, and your Reactions to try and flee to an exit. You must do this twice against your opponent. If you are fighting more then one opponent, You need only do it once to each of them. But once finished, immediately leave. Do not stay there, claiming to be safe, and proceed to run your mouth.
(09:42:41 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
says to Joe MacBain Companion of: gotcha
09:43:05 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to Lady NyahCompanion to Jo: I want that one for the FW training also please Love
(09:43:44 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : those are the BASIC rules of the Prodigy
(09:43:50 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
says to Joe MacBain Companion of: I like that one
(09:44:29 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
says to Joe MacBain Companion of: a lots to learn
(09:45:37 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : well thats the BASICs -smiles- so perhaps You can see now why Cicero did not think too much of You coming up and saying one day You will beat Him...I takes a lot of time and effort to do it properly...also -smiles- Cicero wrote the rules
(09:45:41 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
says to Joe MacBain Companion of: thanks for wanting to teach me Joe I aprciate it
(09:46:27 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
says to Joe MacBain Companion of: yeah can see that now and sorta lost his help by me mouth
(09:46:44 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to Serpant Dia BosaOst keep: of course You can try -smiles- thing is with a counter strike...if it fails...You get the full force of the blow that was intended...did You wish to try a counter? -smiles-
(09:47:02 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
says to Joe MacBain Companion of: laffs
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : 4. Forced Actions will not be acceptable. No forced action will be considered for a lethal blow or knock out blow. A point will be deducted for each forced action. To avoid using forced actions, attempt to use the following.
(09:06:19 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : ~*I thrust my sword forward at your chest, hoping to kill you.*~ Instead of, ~*I thrust my sword into your chest so that it drives through your muscle tissue and into your heart leaving the tip of the sword poking out of your back*~
(09:06:54 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : words like 'try' 'hope' 'aims to' are all good
(09:07:08 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : never say, 'You did'
(09:07:27 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : ~*I swing my sword down and to my right, to deflect your blow wide of my right leg.*~ instead of, ~*I swing my sword down and to my right, deflecting your sword wide to my right so that it is completely out of position for anything I may then do.*~
(09:08:02 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : block and parry but never say exactly where there weapon is
(09:08:59 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : as Ya stand 3 feet from Me and I do not need to step in at this range I open My shield up to My left side, like a door as You stick Your sword out, to bat it off to My left and open the gap right up looking at a leather shield of 7 layers I assume against a Torv longsword it was going to be nasty
(09:09:00 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
: Im use ta saying try and attempts so that is good I can use here smiles
(09:09:34 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : to bat it off to My left and open the gap right up
(09:09:57 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : It will be the judges decision on what a forced action is or is not
(09:10:27 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : 5. Clarity is key. A fighter must be clear to the Judge and to his opponent. A judge will decide what is clear, and what is not. If a judge struggles picturing something then it is not clear enough, thus warranting a deduction. Also, if a fighter is very unclear in a reaction, to the point that A judge deems it unclear, his opponent will have a small bit of leeway in his Counter, due to the opponent possibly having been confused as well.
09:11:07 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : understand?
(09:12:52 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
: it means that I have to be more clear bouts what I says and if I uses try and attempts so they not forced then the judge will be hapy and I wonts lose points or advantag
(09:12:57 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : stabs My right held sword at the left side of Your head.....or.....My right held sword being in a high right position to Me already as I sweep the blade over to My left to get the mid section over the top of Your shield and try to dig the cutting edge into the left side of Your skull
(09:13:42 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : correct
(09:14:08 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : 6. Realism is vital. A fighter must strive to be realistic, realistic to what is acceptable in modern physics, but as well as what is realistic in the Gorean World. If a judge feels something is not realistic, it will have a point deducted for it. Also if an attack is unrealistic, then it will not be considered for a lethal blow or knock out blow, even if the opponent messes up his defense.
(09:14:32 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
: so my post was forced caus I says that it did hit when it migt not of
(09:15:23 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : leaps 30 feet in the air as I sumersault over Your head and twist in mid air to come down at Your back...slashing My blade down as I come to slice open Your back if successful
(09:15:33 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : yes -smiles-
(09:15:55 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
: smiles
(09:16:14 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : 7. Back Posts will be a complicated issue in this type of system, because most times it does not allow for them to be performed as they are often done in other spar systems. An explanation of this is as follows.
(09:16:45 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : A fighter, in most systems, is able make attacks that will grossly leave his body exposed to a counter attack, but can get away with doing it, because to do it during an attack it would be a back post, so as such many fighters have neglected learning the skill of being able to attack while still keep themselves in the proper position to defend. Often times, people will make a multitude of attacks that would leave them greatly vulnerable, and then simply back away to clear the distance between the two men, thus keeping him safe. This is NOT realistic, and is corrected in this system.
(09:17:08 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : It is largely corrected in this system because people will not have the option to make such attacks and then simply clear away to bring them to safety, despite how badly they left themselves open. I shall provide an example of such.
(09:17:28 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : Fighter A: ~*Equipped with a long sword gripped firmly in both hands. I begin to advance toward you to get into sword range. I then bring the sword upward and then around forward to slash down and to my left at the top of your left shoulder*~
(09:17:39 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : Fighter B: ~*Equiped with a Torv shield in my left hand and a gladius in my right hand, I quickly Step in and to my right as well as raise the face of my Torvaldslander shield upward and to my left to take your hack down onto the face of my shield. I then quickly react with thrusting my gladius in and to my left at the front of your stomach*~
(09:17:56 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : These 2 posts are seen as happening at nearly the same time, and before fighter A could of simply used an action to back out of range after his strike, which is not overly realistic. The ability to Riposte in this spar system will prove to be most realistic, and most important.
(09:18:43 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : If a fighter tries to alter what he had done in previous posts, it is still of course a back post, due to it would be as though re-writing what he already had committed to making happen. Do not consider what is described above as back posting in the normal sense. Instead it is simply counter striking, or a riposte.
If a fighter's reaction at you, is to foolishly kick his leg up at your body into your sword range, it is acceptable for your counter to be snapping your weapon down at his leg, trying to make that fighter pull back a stump, as is very realistic. However, for you to do so, that will count as your Counter, as well as your reaction.
(09:19:25 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
: now I knows what ya means that I was moving away wasnt right not realistick
(09:19:30 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : understand?
(09:19:50 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : good, also do You understand the 'counter attack'
(09:20:05 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : If a fighter's reaction at you, is to foolishly kick his leg up at your body into your sword range, it is acceptable for your counter to be snapping your weapon down at his leg, trying to make that fighter pull back a stump, as is very realistic. However, for you to do so, that will count as your Counter, as well as your reaction.
(09:20:41 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
: I think I does but I will read it all again so I really understands it
(09:21:21 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : okay...if You are 1 pace away with a spear and dig the end in the ground to flick dirt at Me
(09:22:19 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : Counter: stepping in to a pace from You as I dig the spear head in the ground reaction: flicking the spear end up from the dirt as I try to flick the dirt in Your face
(09:23:24 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
: so not good to do that really cause all your moves are gone
(09:23:37 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : My Counter and Reaction as is a Counter Strike: as You came in that close and I had a 3 foot sword I watched You dig the spear in the ground and swung My sword at Your elbows from My right to left as I tey and just hack Your arms off
(09:24:36 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : is fine with the moves BUT A is two parts to do it and Mine is BOTH parts to do ONE action as a counterstrike
(09:25:15 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : You understand? -smiles-
09:25:53 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : Counter = moves forward and digs the spear head in the ground
Reaction = flicking the dirt up
(09:26:16 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : Counter and Reaction = cutting the arms off
09:26:47 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
says to Joe MacBain Companion of: so is better if ya can put counter and reaction in a post in such a way its only one or other not both at same time
(09:27:50 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : You can do 2 parts if You are setting up and then attacking OR One part if Your block is also an attack,...this is called a COUNTERSTRIKE
(09:28:31 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
says to Joe MacBain Companion of: I understands that now
(09:28:59 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : counter-I step in and lean over
reaction-as I throw a right fisted punch at Your nose
(09:29:53 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : You: Counter - leans My head back to My right to dodge the blow
Reaction: thrusting My sword up at Your ribs
(09:29:58 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : or
(09:30:47 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : Counter and Reaction - snaps My sword from My right to left as I aim to cut Your hand off at the wrist as Your try and punch Me and leave You with a bleeding stump on the end of Your arm
(09:31:00 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : last one is a COUNTERSTRIKE
(09:33:11 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : 8: To allow Prodigy to go further in seperation from some other combat systems, there will be more of a rolling time limit used in prodigy battles. A time limit may be agreed upon by both and all combatants prior to a fight. Some fighters are fast, they may wish a 4 or 5 minute time limits, others are slower, they may wish a 8 to 10 minute time limit, some may wish a longer time limit then that or no time limit at all. The reason time limits were added to Gorean combat was to keep spars flowing and moving so that a 5 hour death spar would be a thing of the past. This rolling time limit shall hopefully provide benefits for speedy fighters liking to post fast, or slower fighters wishing to take it slower. The default time limit for Prodigy fights that a spontaneous(IE: Open Combat fight would be expected to perform under, is 8 minutes.
Time begins when the first attack is issued, it does not start from the stances. Breaking time violation will be a time deduction in sport spars, in serious fights, the reaction in a post that has a time violation, it will be considered as though your opponent was temporarily stunned, and was unable to make a real reaction. If you notice their time violation, and are certain they busted time, in a serious fight, you may disregard their reaction and continue on with using your counter as a free movement or reposition, but not an attack. If that reaction that would be nullified by busting time, is in defense of a lethal or knock out attack, it will not be considered as doing full damage, but this should be rare as defenses should be found in the counter. A time out should never be the only cause for death. The Judge will look at it as part of the blow landed. However that still requires the defense to have been realistic. If the defense would not have worked, AND they busted time, then it is acceptable to rule them dead/captured.
(09:33:55 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : So ave is 8 mins for a Spar but can be no time limit if both agree
(09:34:22 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
says to Joe MacBain Companion of: thats good cause I needs as long as I can gets laughs
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : Time begins when the first attack is issued, it does not start from the stances. Breaking time violation will be a time deduction in sport spars, in serious fights, the reaction in a post that has a time violation, it will be considered as though your opponent was temporarily stunned, and was unable to make a real reaction. If you notice their time violation, and are certain they busted time, in a serious fight, you may disregard their reaction and continue on with using your counter as a free movement or reposition, but not an attack. If that reaction that would be nullified by busting time, is in defense of a lethal or knock out attack, it will not be considered as doing full damage, but this should be rare as defenses should be found in the counter. A time out should never be the only cause for death. The Judge will look at it as part of the blow landed. However that still requires the defense to have been realistic. If the defense would not have worked, AND they busted time, then it is acceptable to rule them dead/captured.
(09:35:40 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : make sure You understand this part
(09:36:02 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
says to Joe MacBain Companion of: ok gives me a min to read it please
009:36:44 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : of course
(09:38:40 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : Tiem starts from the FIRST attack NOT stance
Going over time in a REAL fight means the reaction did not work from the other person...a free go! so You do not need to defend..You can move to a better position
(09:38:44 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
says to Joe MacBain Companion of: so if we says only loud 8 mins and I take 10 mins then me reaction part of my post may be voided
(09:39:07 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : yes
(09:39:35 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : When fighting Multiple Opponents, You will reply to the first attack, and have 8 minutes to reply from that first attack. Once you reply, You have 8 minutes from your OWN time stamp to reply to the 2nd attacker
(09:40:17 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : 9: If an opponent’s bank reaches zero before the battle may be over, it is automatically ended right there if the Judge should wish to do so. 10 errors in one battle should be enough to clearly show who won and who lost.
(09:40:52 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : yes
(09:41:36 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : 10: The goal is to provide realism, and a bit of simplicity that is lacking in some systems. We are interested in having many battles from Kaiila back, and in mounted combat, like naval combat, half a dozen minor actions are always happening at once, and we hope this will provide a good system to enjoy mounted combat.
(09:42:03 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : clear enough? -smiles-
(09:42:27 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : 11. To escape serious combat, You must use your Counters to block, and your Reactions to try and flee to an exit. You must do this twice against your opponent. If you are fighting more then one opponent, You need only do it once to each of them. But once finished, immediately leave. Do not stay there, claiming to be safe, and proceed to run your mouth.
(09:42:41 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
says to Joe MacBain Companion of: gotcha
09:43:05 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to Lady NyahCompanion to Jo: I want that one for the FW training also please Love
(09:43:44 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : those are the BASIC rules of the Prodigy
(09:43:50 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
says to Joe MacBain Companion of: I like that one
(09:44:29 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
says to Joe MacBain Companion of: a lots to learn
(09:45:37 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to PelagonGuest of Hulneth : well thats the BASICs -smiles- so perhaps You can see now why Cicero did not think too much of You coming up and saying one day You will beat Him...I takes a lot of time and effort to do it properly...also -smiles- Cicero wrote the rules
(09:45:41 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
says to Joe MacBain Companion of: thanks for wanting to teach me Joe I aprciate it
(09:46:27 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
says to Joe MacBain Companion of: yeah can see that now and sorta lost his help by me mouth
(09:46:44 )
Joe MacBain
Companion of Lady Nyah
JARL OF HULNETH GRP
HOUSE OF DESPOILER
is in the large main field and says to Serpant Dia BosaOst keep: of course You can try -smiles- thing is with a counter strike...if it fails...You get the full force of the blow that was intended...did You wish to try a counter? -smiles-
(09:47:02 )
Pelagon
Guest of Hulneth GRP
Cabin # 1
says to Joe MacBain Companion of: laffs